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		<title>Szechuan dollar: Learning from scratches</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend from <a title="Hangzhou" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangzhou" target="_blank">Hangzhou</a> recently contacted me regarding a <strong>Chinese coin</strong> he was interested in purchasing. It was a beautiful but rather expensive <strong>Szechuan coin</strong> (￥100,000 RMB or about $16,400 USD at the time of writing), and he was unsure about the deal.</p>
<div id="attachment_583" style="width: 547px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/szechuan-dollar-narrow-face-double-die-obverse.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-583" alt="Szechuan dollar Y-238 L&amp;M-345 Doubled Die (obverse)" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/szechuan-dollar-narrow-face-double-die-obverse.jpg" width="537" height="503" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Szechuan dollar Y-238 L&amp;M-345 Doubled Die (obverse)</p></div>
<p>The <strong>Szechuan dollar</strong> my friend was considering to buy was a <strong>high grade sample</strong> of the rare &#8220;库 not connected&#8221; variety (<strong>四川光绪剑毛龙无头车</strong>). It had <strong>sharp details</strong> and was graded <strong>AU50</strong> by <strong>NGC</strong>, however the coin had clearly been <strong>cleaned</strong> and my friend hoped for a discount.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_584" style="width: 270px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-dollar-obverse.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-584" alt="Szechuen dollar - obverse" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-dollar-obverse-300x281.jpg" width="260" height="244" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Szechuen dollar &#8211; obverse</p></div><div id="attachment_585" style="width: 270px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-dollar-reverse.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-585" alt="Szechuen dollar - reverse" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-dollar-reverse-300x290.jpg" width="260" height="252" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Szechuen dollar &#8211; reverse</p></div><br />
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<p>I browsed past sales results when I was struck by the similitude between the coin my friend coveted and a <strong>Szechuen dollar</strong> sold at the Jiuzhou 2012 Summer Auction (<a title="九州2012夏季拍卖会" href="https://pai.icoin.cn/_files/201205/gds000873.htm" target="_blank">九州2012夏季机制币、纸币拍卖专场</a>). At first, I thought that the coin graded <strong>XF details</strong> by <strong>PCGS</strong> had been re-submitted to <strong>NGC</strong> in a bid for a more favorable grade, but I quickly verified that the <strong>coins&#8217; obverse</strong> were distinct.</p>
<div id="attachment_586" style="width: 560px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-coin-different-obverse.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-586" alt="Jiuzhou 2012 Summer Auction - Szechuan dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-coin-different-obverse-1024x1024.jpg" width="550" height="550" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Jiuzhou 2012 Summer Auction &#8211; Szechuan dollar</p></div>
<p>While carefully examining the <strong>reverse</strong>, I was troubled to find an <strong>identical scratch</strong> below the right side <strong>rosette</strong>. Despite the low resolution of the pictures sent by my friend, it was obvious this ought to be a <strong>circulation mark</strong>. Two coins of the same type often exhibit <strong>wear</strong> or <strong>weak strike</strong> in the same place, but identical <strong>circulation marks</strong> should never be observed: it would indeed imply both coins were randomly damaged in the exact same fashion while being handled by countless men and women through a century!</p>
<div id="attachment_587" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-coin-reverse-comparison.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-587" alt="Circulation marks comparison (reverse)" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fake-szechuan-coin-reverse-comparison-1024x512.jpg" width="600" height="301" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Circulation marks comparison (reverse)</p></div>
<p>The scratches I highlighted on the picture above were damning evidences that both coins were very <strong>high level forgeries</strong>. The counterfeiters went to the trouble of striking <strong>different obverses</strong>, but were surprisingly lazy etching the same marks on the <strong>reverse</strong>. The <strong>replica</strong> is still stunning, and actually fooled two world-class <strong>grading agencies</strong> and the highly experienced <strong>Chinese coins</strong> <strong>collectors</strong> who bought them. It is especially troubling that without the inexplicable laziness of the counterfeiters, and a stroke of luck comparing pictures on the Internet, both <strong>fake coins</strong> would have most likely stayed undetected.</p>
<p>Once again, I will urge my dear readers to listen to their instinct when buying: if you are somehow hesitant about a deal, like my friend was, the best decision is often to walk away. It is also best to avoid buying <strong>cleaned</strong> or <strong>polished coins</strong> altogether, especially in <strong>high grade</strong>, as it is too convenient a camouflage for <strong>artificial aging</strong>.</p>
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		<title>Buy the (Chinese) coin, not the holder</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a common saying in the numismatic community &#8211; to the point of becoming a <em>cliché</em> &#8211; but it still bears repeating: <strong>buy the coin, not the holder</strong>. Today I will share with you the details of an unfortunate purchase, which hopefully should serve as a cautionary tale for fellow <strong>Chinese coins</strong> collectors.</p>
<div id="attachment_565" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-scales-tongueless-long-spines-obverse.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-scales-tongueless-long-spines-obverse-1024x1018.jpg" alt="Kiangnan Province Dragon with circlet-like scales, tongueless, long spines" width="600" height="596" class="size-large wp-image-565" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kiangnan Province Dragon with circlet-like scales, tongueless, long spines</p></div>
<p>Collecting is a demanding hobby; to stay ahead of increasingly deceptive <strong>forgeries</strong>, ingenious alterations or <strong>tooling</strong>, one needs to keep on learning the most intimate details of <strong>Chinese coins</strong>. It may sometimes be tempting to simply rely on the knowledge of others and buy a coin that is &#8220;out of our league&#8221; with a relative peace of mind. I would urge my readers to resist this temptation, though. Certificates from <strong>grading companies</strong> and the opinion of more experienced collectors should only help confirm your own judgement.</p>
<p>I recently bought a very rare and beautiful <strong>Chinese coin</strong> from a reputed Shanghai dealer. The Dragon dollar was in a <strong>PCGS holder</strong>, and the seller guaranteed that the coin had not been repaired or cleaned. The competition to buy this beautiful rarity was intense and I had all the reasons to buy with confidence, so I gave in to temptation:</p>
<p><div id="attachment_531" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-post-reverse.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-post-reverse-300x300.jpg" alt="Original post: Kiangnan Dragon with Circlet-like Scales (reverse)" width="250" height="250" class="size-medium wp-image-531" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Original post: Kiangnan Dragon with Circlet-like Scales (reverse)</p></div><div id="attachment_532" style="width: 260px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-post-obverse.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-post-obverse-298x300.jpg" alt="Original post: Kiangnan Dragon with Circlet-like Scales (obverse)" width="250" height="251" class="size-medium wp-image-532" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Original post: Kiangnan Dragon with Circlet-like Scales (obverse)</p></div><br />
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<p>The coin I coveted is a particularly interesting variety of the famous <strong>Kiangnan Pearl Scales Dragon</strong> (also known as Dragon with <strong>Circlet-like Scales</strong>). The dragon lost its tongue to weak strike, and has longer spines on its back and tail (<strong>江南戊戌珍珠龙长毛无舌版</strong>). Additionally, this particular specimen has a very special characteristic, that I had never seen before: the top of the 庫 character, probably due to a <strong>die chip</strong>, was perfectly rounded (<strong>圆头庫</strong>).</p>
<div id="attachment_533" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-die-chip-detail.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-die-chip-detail.jpg" alt="江南戊戌珍珠龙长毛无舌圆头库" width="300" height="266" class="size-full wp-image-533" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">江南戊戌珍珠龙长毛无舌圆头库</p></div>
<p>When I received the coin and could carefully examine its surface, I started to experience this uneasy feeling familiar to collectors: the left brain knows something is amiss, while the right brain emotionaly defends the purchase. The coin was definitely genuine, but I could not help but think the toning and surfaces had some unnatural quality to them. Pushed by intuition, I started researching the pedigree of this coin online; something I should better have done before buying! When I came across the picture below, my unease only grew:</p>
<div id="attachment_534" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-condition-pearl-dragon.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-circlet-like-scales-original-condition-pearl-dragon-1024x500.jpg" alt="Original condition (Shanghai Chongyuan auctions)" width="600" height="294" class="size-large wp-image-534" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Original condition (Shanghai Chongyuan auctions)</p></div>
<p>At first glance, it seemed unlikely that both coins were the same; the <strong>dragon dollar</strong> sold at the <a href="https://www.chongyuan.cn/artshows.asp?ID=1234&#038;SID=82" title="Shanghai Chongyuan auctions, 2012-10-18 Lot #1234" target="_blank">Shanghai Chongyuan auctions</a> was heavily <strong>chopmarked</strong>. Both coins had a similar feeling to them though, and poring over the pictures, my troubled gaze feverishly jumping from identical <strong>circulation marks</strong> to the same <strong>rim nicks</strong>, I was increasingly convinced that it was indeed my coin, before it had been skillfully altered by a devious craftsman. I highlighted the details of interest below:</p>
<p><div id="attachment_535" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-circlet-like-scales-altered.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-circlet-like-scales-altered-1024x508.jpg" alt="Altered Kiangnan 1898 Circlet-like Scales Dragon" width="600" height="294" class="size-large wp-image-535" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Altered Kiangnan 1898 Circlet-like Scales Dragon</p></div><div id="attachment_551" style="width: 270px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-reverse-detail.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-reverse-detail-300x266.jpg" alt="Reverse details" width="260" height="230" class="size-medium wp-image-551" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Reverse details</p></div><div id="attachment_552" style="width: 270px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-obverse-detail.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiangnan-pearl-dragon-obverse-detail-300x271.jpg" alt="Obverse details" width="260" height="235" class="size-medium wp-image-552" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Obverse details</p></div><br />
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<p>Carved right into the silver was the proof that the coin I bought was removed from its original <strong>GBCA holder</strong>, tooled with remarkable craftsmanship, <strong>artificially toned</strong> and successfully submitted to PCGS. <strong>Altering coins</strong> is a cardinal sin in numismatics: it is always done with the intention to deceive collectors and artificially inflate the value of a coin. I personally consider this practice tantamount to <strong>counterfeiting</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Circulation marks</strong>, nicks and scratches are the unique fingerprint of a coin. If on pictures two coins bear the same marks, there is only two possibility: either it is actually pictures of the same coin, or both are fake&#8230; As a more sinister example, please consider the picture below:</p>
<div id="attachment_557" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fake-fengtien-1903-dollar.jpg"><img src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/fake-fengtien-1903-dollar-1006x1024.jpg" alt="Two Fake Fengtien 1903 Dollars" width="600" height="610" class="size-large wp-image-557" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Two Fake Fengtien 1903 Dollars</p></div>
<p>These two high level fake <strong>1903 Fengtien dollars</strong> were spotted by reader Remetalk, using the same method I identified my altered coin. The coin on the left was listed at the April 2012 Hong Kong Auction, lot 21167, and graded <strong>NGC VF-20</strong>. The coin on the right was seen at the August 2012 Moscow Wolmar auction VIP №299, lot 1260. I spotted an identical fake in Beijing, graded <a href="https://www.pcgs.com/Cert/26073568/" title="Fake 1903 Fengtien dollar" target="_blank">VF details</a> by PCGS.</p>
<p>With <strong>Chinese counterfeiters</strong> getting increasingly skillful at deceiving collectors and even world-class grading companies, it is more than ever necessary for fellow <strong>Chinese coins collectors</strong> to keep their eyes peeled, avoid impulse buying and always verify the pedigree of rare coins. <strong>Buy the coin, not the holder</strong>.</p>
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		<title>Fake Kwang-Tung dollar: a basic case study</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader Arun sent me pictures of the <strong>Kwang-Tung dollar</strong> below, seeking confirmation of its authenticity. While I could see the coin was fake at a glance, I also thought it could make a good case study.</p>
<div id="attachment_474" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fake-kwangtung-dollar.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-474" title="A fake Kwang-Tung dollar, courtesy of reader Arun" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fake-kwangtung-dollar-300x287.jpg" alt="A fake Kwang-Tung dollar, courtesy of reader Arun" width="300" height="287" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A fake Kwang-Tung dollar, courtesy of reader Arun</p></div>
<p>When beginner or casual collectors attempt to detect <strong>forgeries</strong>, they will usually try to determine if the coin they have in hand looks similar enough to a known &#8220;good coin&#8221;, usually from an <strong>illustrated coin catalogue</strong>. The problem with this method is the pictures included in printed catalogues are mostly meant to help identify a <strong>coin type</strong> and therefore rather small; they do not expose enough details for this comparison process to be meaningful.</p>
<p>The <strong>Kwang-Tung dollar</strong> is especially ill-fitted for this approach. A lot of them suffer from <strong>weak strike</strong>, and it can be easy for the unaverted eye to mistakenly match the overall coarseness of a <strong>fake coin</strong> with the fading details of a <strong>genuine coin</strong> struck with worn dies.</p>
<div id="attachment_475" style="width: 501px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/kwangtung-dollar.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-475  " title="A genuine Kwang-Tung dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/kwangtung-dollar-1024x1024.jpg" alt="A genuine Kwang-Tung dollar" width="491" height="491" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A genuine Kwang-Tung dollar</p></div>
<p>Even using the high resolution picture above, an inexperienced <strong>Chinese coins</strong> collector may think both coins are identical. This is because most casual collectors will &#8220;read&#8221; the coin: instead of seeing that the shape of the lettering is different (much bolder on the <strong>fake coin</strong>), they will see the text on both coins is the same. More subtle details like the <strong>coin denticles</strong> are likely to be ignored, as a boring frame for the <strong>devices of the coin</strong>: the attention of the beginner will be focused instead on the <strong>dragon</strong>, which is badly struck on both coins and thus actually rather similar.</p>
<p>It is however entirely possible to see that this coin is fake without even examining its devices. The &#8220;grainy&#8221; aspect of the surface of our reader&#8217;s coin, and the many &#8220;bumps&#8221; I circled in red are clear indication that this coin was struck with <strong>low quality cast dies</strong>. Such dies suffer from a common defect, called <strong>gas porosity voids</strong>, which results of the expansion of gas entrapped during the metal handling or in the injection process. A coin struck using such dies will exhibit the <strong>lusterless</strong>, pimply surfaces typical of a <strong>low grade forgery</strong>.</p>
<div id="attachment_476" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fake-kwangtung-dollar-cast-die-pimples.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-476" title="&quot;Pimples&quot; caused by a cast die defects" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/fake-kwangtung-dollar-cast-die-pimples-300x287.jpg" alt="&quot;Pimples&quot; caused by a cast die defects" width="300" height="287" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&#8220;Pimples&#8221; caused by a cast die defects (click to enlarge)</p></div>
<p>If you ever find such a poor <strong>replica coin</strong> in a shop, it is a safe bet that you will not be able to find a <strong>genuine coin</strong> there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>A fake overstruck chinese coin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month I wrote that <strong>chinese coins</strong> collectors ought to be especially careful in hunting <strong>fantasy dollars</strong>. Counterfeiters are well aware of the growing interest in these very special coins and have been increasingly daring and creative to profit from this trend.</p>
<p>This month I would like to show you a very interesting sample: a <strong>Szechuan dollar</strong> struck over a <strong>Sinkiang tael</strong>.</p>
<div id="attachment_453" style="width: 280px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-obverse.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-453 " title="Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (obverse)" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-obverse-300x300.jpg" alt="Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (obverse)" width="270" height="270" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (obverse)</p></div>
<p><div id="attachment_454" style="width: 280px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-reverse.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-454 " title="Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (reverse)" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-reverse-300x300.jpg" alt="Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (reverse)" width="270" height="270" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Szechuan dollar struck over a Sinkiang 1917 tael (reverse)</p></div><br />
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This unusual <strong>Chinese coin</strong> has been cleverly crafted to deceive advanced collectors. The design of this <strong>Szechuan dollar</strong> could reasonably be attributed to some unofficial or <strong>private mint</strong>, and details of the host coin are immediately noticeable underneath, particularly on the reverse.</p>
<div id="attachment_455" style="width: 280px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-reverse-host.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-455 " title="Overstruck Xinjiang 1917 tael" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/szechuan-dollar-overstruck-sinkiang-1917-tael-reverse-host-300x300.jpg" alt="Overstruck Xinjiang 1917 tael" width="270" height="270" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Overstruck Xinjiang 1917 tael</p></div>
<p><div id="attachment_456" style="width: 280px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/xinjiang-tael-1917.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-456 " title="Xinjiang tael (1917)" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/xinjiang-tael-1917-300x300.jpg" alt="Xinjiang tael (1917)" width="270" height="270" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Xinjiang tael (1917)</p></div><br />
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This intriguing coin is obviously tempting for the <strong>warlord dollars</strong> collector. It is however a cheap <strong>forgery</strong>. The weight of this coin (35 grams) is consistent with its face value of one <em>Xiāng Píng</em> Tael (湘平壹两), and the worn out surfaces effectively conceal the abnormally soft details of the host coin. The shallow strike on the rims is still visible though and should immediately arouse suspicion. More generally, a 1917 coin of an higher denomination overstruck with a demonetized, lower face value coin type should also raise a few eyebrows.</p>
<p>The main problem with this coin though is that this particular <strong>Sichuan dollar</strong> design is a well-known <strong>fake Chinese coin</strong> type. From that point on, it is easy to guess that some enterprising counterfeiter decided that striking fake <strong>Xinjiang taels</strong> with an odd-looking <strong>Szechuan dollar</strong> would make them more interesting and less obvious to spot.</p>
<div id="attachment_457" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/fake-szechuan-dollar.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-457" title="Fake Sichuan Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/fake-szechuan-dollar-300x225.jpg" alt="Fake Sichuan Dollar" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake Sichuan Dollar</p></div>
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		<title>Forgeries: 1897 Kiang Nan province Dollar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first modern, machine-struck silver coinage in China began in Guangdong in 1889. The new currency gaining in popularity, other provinces started to issue <strong>silver dollar coins</strong>. The Jiang Nan province (江南) was an early adopter and issued its first complete set of silver coins in 1897. This early set was minted in low quantities, with an original design which was quickly replaced by a more common one during the next two years. That makes the 1897 Kiangnan silver dollar a valued addition to a <strong>chinese dragon dollars</strong> <strong>collection</strong>. Sadly, the popularity of this coin amongst collectors made it a choice target for counterfeiters.</p>
<p>I recently saw a new kind of fake Lao Kiangnan coin floating around on online auction websites. It can easily be spotted by the little bumps around the rosette at the left of the dragon, and inside its coiled tail, as seen below.</p>
<div id="attachment_34" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fake_lao_jiangnan.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-34" title="Fake Lao Kiangnan" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fake_lao_jiangnan-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake Lao Kiangnan" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake Lao Kiangnan</p></div>
<p>Aside of the bumps, the coin is well struck and much more convincing than the usual crude forgeries found on these kind of websites. For comparison, here is what a real Lao Kiangnan looks like:</p>
<div id="attachment_35" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/real_lao_jiangnan.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-35" title="Genuine Lao Kiangnan" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/real_lao_jiangnan-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine Lao Kiangnan" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine Lao Kiangnan</p></div>
<p>Any bumps on a machine struck coin should immediately raise suspicion; they are usually artifacts appearing during the process of casting. In this case, the <strong>coin</strong> is visibly struck, but most likely using a cast die &#8211; the bumps are the imprint of tiny bubbles trapped between the mold and the metal during the casting.</p>
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		<title>Forgeries: 1910 Silver Dragon Dollar, last Qing emperor pattern coin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        <media:content url="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er-300x300.jpg" medium="image" />		<description><![CDATA[In 1910, at the beginning of the short-lived rule of the 宣统 emperor (Xuan Tong), the Central Mint in Tianjin created new designs for general issues. Beautiful pattern coins were struck there in limited quantities, and most of them are rare and coveted nowadays. One of such pattern coins is the 1910 imperial silver dollar [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1910, at the beginning of the short-lived rule of the 宣统 emperor (Xuan Tong), the Central Mint in Tianjin created new designs for general issues. Beautiful pattern coins were struck there in limited quantities, and most of them are rare and coveted nowadays.</p>
<p>One of such pattern coins is the 1910 imperial silver dollar (Kann 219). It features a menacing dragon flying over the sea, with a mountainous shore in the background. This design earned it the nicknames of <strong>水龙</strong> (shui long: water dragon), or more down-to-earth 宣二 (shorthand for 宣统二年, 2nd year of Xuan Tong) amongst chinese collectors. This beautiful coin is pretty hard to find, so I was quite happy when I found the specimen below:</p>
<div id="attachment_19" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-19" title="Fake &quot;Xuan Er&quot;" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake 1910 dragon dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake 1910 imperial dragon dollar</p></div>
<p>Just looking at the picture, this coin looks nice. But simply comparing this coin to a picture of a genuine one, sold in a reputable auction house, one can easily see it is actually fake:</p>
<div id="attachment_20" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_xuan_er.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-20" title="Genuine &quot;Xuan Er&quot;" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_xuan_er-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine 1910 imperial dragon dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine 1910 imperial dragon dollar</p></div>
<p>The genuine one has so much more relief and details, that the forgery completely pales out in comparison, contrary to the previous example of Yuan Shi Kai republican dollar. The poor reproduction of the nose of the dragon, its scales and the landscape is pretty damning&#8230;</p>
<p>It is interesting though to compare the fake dollar coin to a genuine half dollar of the same coins set (KM Y-23):</p>
<div id="attachment_25" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_half_dollar.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-25" title="Genuine 1910 Half Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_half_dollar-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine 1910 Half Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine 1910 Half Dollar</p></div>
<p>It turns out the fake One Dollar coin pattern is actually a decent copy of the simplified design from the smaller Half Dollar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Forgeries: a very convincing 1914 Yuan Shi Kai commemorative silver dollar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently found a beautiful, slightly toned Yuan Shi Kai republican dollar while hunting for rare chinese coins. Looking more closely, one can see the signature of the engraver L. Giorgi on the coin. Specimen with signatures are very rare, and such a coin is easily worth between $4000 and $8000 USD.</p>
<p>Here is the coin:</p>
<div id="attachment_8" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-8" title="Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar (obverse)</p></div>
<p>It looks great, but I soon started to have doubts about its authenticity when I got it out of its protective case: the reeded edge felt a bit too rough and shallow. Knowing that this pattern coin is very rare, I also knew the odds I found a forgery were pretty high. I therefore looked closely at the portrait and a picture of a real coin sold in a reputable auction to find if there was some visible differences.</p>
<p>Here is a genuine Yuan Shi Kai commemorative dollar (Kann 642a), can you spot the difference?</p>
<div id="attachment_11" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_ysk.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-11" title="Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_ysk-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar</p></div>
<p>If you look closely at the signature of the engraver &#8220;L. Giorgi&#8221; on both coins, you will find that it is very well imitated, but slightly off on the fake coin. On the real one, the signature is over the 5th bead on the edge, while on the fake, it is over the 4th bead. See below:</p>
<div id="attachment_12" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk_signature.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-12" title="Fake L. Giorgi signature" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk_signature-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake L. Giorgi signature" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake L. Giorgi signature</p></div>
<p>Aside of this detail, the forgery was very convincing. The portrait did not show any significant difference. After a bit more research, I also found that the engraver&#8217;s signature on a contemporary Yuan Shi Kai pattern coin, the so-called 飞龙, is actually over the 4th bead. Could this coin be a mule, or a die variation?</p>
<p>After finding this out, I went to the Madian coin market to seek the advice of a professional coin dealer. At the first sight, he thought the coin was real. When I wanted to sell it, he went to show it to a colleague and then came back, saying it was fake. Interestingly enough, it was not the signature position that raised a red flag to them, but the relief of the coin. The real one is totally flat around the Yuan Shi Kai portrait, while on mine both sides of the portrait are not exactly of the same depth. This can only be seen by slowly inclining the coin in front of a light source.</p>
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