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		<title>Forgeries: 1897 Kiang Nan province Dollar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        <media:content url="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fake_lao_jiangnan-298x300.jpg" medium="image" />		<description><![CDATA[The first modern, machine-struck silver coinage in China began in Guangdong in 1889. The new currency gaining in popularity, other provinces started to issue silver dollar coins. The Jiang Nan province (江南) was an early adopter and issued its first complete set of silver coins in 1897. This early set was minted in low quantities, [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first modern, machine-struck silver coinage in China began in Guangdong in 1889. The new currency gaining in popularity, other provinces started to issue <strong>silver dollar coins</strong>. The Jiang Nan province (江南) was an early adopter and issued its first complete set of silver coins in 1897. This early set was minted in low quantities, with an original design which was quickly replaced by a more common one during the next two years. That makes the 1897 Kiangnan silver dollar a valued addition to a <strong>chinese dragon dollars</strong> <strong>collection</strong>. Sadly, the popularity of this coin amongst collectors made it a choice target for counterfeiters.</p>
<p>I recently saw a new kind of fake Lao Kiangnan coin floating around on online auction websites. It can easily be spotted by the little bumps around the rosette at the left of the dragon, and inside its coiled tail, as seen below.</p>
<div id="attachment_34" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fake_lao_jiangnan.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-34" title="Fake Lao Kiangnan" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fake_lao_jiangnan-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake Lao Kiangnan" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake Lao Kiangnan</p></div>
<p>Aside of the bumps, the coin is well struck and much more convincing than the usual crude forgeries found on these kind of websites. For comparison, here is what a real Lao Kiangnan looks like:</p>
<div id="attachment_35" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/real_lao_jiangnan.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-35" title="Genuine Lao Kiangnan" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/real_lao_jiangnan-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine Lao Kiangnan" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine Lao Kiangnan</p></div>
<p>Any bumps on a machine struck coin should immediately raise suspicion; they are usually artifacts appearing during the process of casting. In this case, the <strong>coin</strong> is visibly struck, but most likely using a cast die &#8211; the bumps are the imprint of tiny bubbles trapped between the mold and the metal during the casting.</p>
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		<title>Forgeries: 1910 Silver Dragon Dollar, last Qing emperor pattern coin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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        <media:content url="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er-300x300.jpg" medium="image" />		<description><![CDATA[In 1910, at the beginning of the short-lived rule of the 宣统 emperor (Xuan Tong), the Central Mint in Tianjin created new designs for general issues. Beautiful pattern coins were struck there in limited quantities, and most of them are rare and coveted nowadays. One of such pattern coins is the 1910 imperial silver dollar [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1910, at the beginning of the short-lived rule of the 宣统 emperor (Xuan Tong), the Central Mint in Tianjin created new designs for general issues. Beautiful pattern coins were struck there in limited quantities, and most of them are rare and coveted nowadays.</p>
<p>One of such pattern coins is the 1910 imperial silver dollar (Kann 219). It features a menacing dragon flying over the sea, with a mountainous shore in the background. This design earned it the nicknames of <strong>水龙</strong> (shui long: water dragon), or more down-to-earth 宣二 (shorthand for 宣统二年, 2nd year of Xuan Tong) amongst chinese collectors. This beautiful coin is pretty hard to find, so I was quite happy when I found the specimen below:</p>
<div id="attachment_19" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-19" title="Fake &quot;Xuan Er&quot;" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_xuan_er-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake 1910 dragon dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake 1910 imperial dragon dollar</p></div>
<p>Just looking at the picture, this coin looks nice. But simply comparing this coin to a picture of a genuine one, sold in a reputable auction house, one can easily see it is actually fake:</p>
<div id="attachment_20" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_xuan_er.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-20" title="Genuine &quot;Xuan Er&quot;" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_xuan_er-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine 1910 imperial dragon dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine 1910 imperial dragon dollar</p></div>
<p>The genuine one has so much more relief and details, that the forgery completely pales out in comparison, contrary to the previous example of Yuan Shi Kai republican dollar. The poor reproduction of the nose of the dragon, its scales and the landscape is pretty damning&#8230;</p>
<p>It is interesting though to compare the fake dollar coin to a genuine half dollar of the same coins set (KM Y-23):</p>
<div id="attachment_25" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_half_dollar.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-25" title="Genuine 1910 Half Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_half_dollar-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine 1910 Half Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine 1910 Half Dollar</p></div>
<p>It turns out the fake One Dollar coin pattern is actually a decent copy of the simplified design from the smaller Half Dollar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Forgeries: a very convincing 1914 Yuan Shi Kai commemorative silver dollar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        <media:content url="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk-300x292.jpg" medium="image" />		<description><![CDATA[I recently found a beautiful, slightly toned Yuan Shi Kai republican dollar while hunting for rare chinese coins. Looking more closely, one can see the signature of the engraver L. Giorgi on the coin. Specimen with signatures are very rare, and such a coin is easily worth between $4000 and $8000 USD. Here is the [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently found a beautiful, slightly toned Yuan Shi Kai republican dollar while hunting for rare chinese coins. Looking more closely, one can see the signature of the engraver L. Giorgi on the coin. Specimen with signatures are very rare, and such a coin is easily worth between $4000 and $8000 USD.</p>
<p>Here is the coin:</p>
<div id="attachment_8" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-8" title="Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake Yuan Shi Kai Dollar (obverse)</p></div>
<p>It looks great, but I soon started to have doubts about its authenticity when I got it out of its protective case: the reeded edge felt a bit too rough and shallow. Knowing that this pattern coin is very rare, I also knew the odds I found a forgery were pretty high. I therefore looked closely at the portrait and a picture of a real coin sold in a reputable auction to find if there was some visible differences.</p>
<p>Here is a genuine Yuan Shi Kai commemorative dollar (Kann 642a), can you spot the difference?</p>
<div id="attachment_11" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_ysk.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-11" title="Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/real_ysk-150x150.jpg" alt="Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Genuine Yuan Shi Kai Dollar</p></div>
<p>If you look closely at the signature of the engraver &#8220;L. Giorgi&#8221; on both coins, you will find that it is very well imitated, but slightly off on the fake coin. On the real one, the signature is over the 5th bead on the edge, while on the fake, it is over the 4th bead. See below:</p>
<div id="attachment_12" style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk_signature.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-12" title="Fake L. Giorgi signature" src="https://www.dragondollar.com/coins/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fake_ysk_signature-150x150.jpg" alt="Fake L. Giorgi signature" width="150" height="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Fake L. Giorgi signature</p></div>
<p>Aside of this detail, the forgery was very convincing. The portrait did not show any significant difference. After a bit more research, I also found that the engraver&#8217;s signature on a contemporary Yuan Shi Kai pattern coin, the so-called 飞龙, is actually over the 4th bead. Could this coin be a mule, or a die variation?</p>
<p>After finding this out, I went to the Madian coin market to seek the advice of a professional coin dealer. At the first sight, he thought the coin was real. When I wanted to sell it, he went to show it to a colleague and then came back, saying it was fake. Interestingly enough, it was not the signature position that raised a red flag to them, but the relief of the coin. The real one is totally flat around the Yuan Shi Kai portrait, while on mine both sides of the portrait are not exactly of the same depth. This can only be seen by slowly inclining the coin in front of a light source.</p>
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